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Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:57 pm
by Andy Crawford
Yep would agree Shawn, I just wanted to know if we would be running silver can OR sport tuned motors as obviously there is quite a difference in performance between them and all drivers should have the same to keep a level playing field......

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:36 pm
by James Brooker
I think on the subject of the lipo cut off, maybe the committee need to get together on Sunday and have a chat.

As far as i'm concerned if its in the rules then you have too have it. You can't start relying on racers to remember which pack they've put in or even if they've charged it. I mean they cant even remember to put the lipos in a sack or the 12V's in a container! With no big Jim around this year the rules are gonna get breached even more :evil:

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:23 pm
by danracer
Call me dumb, but forgive me as I've been out of racing for a while. By 'minis' do you mean 1/18 scale, or minis as in Tamiya's M-03 mini (1/10 scale). Thanks, and sorry in advance for the ignorance! :)

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:40 pm
by Simon Taylor
Dan they mean the tamiya m03 ones. My lipos should be here any day but i've only got a silver can motor :( But i got my tamiya speedo courtesy of jim bubbly spares :lol: Looking forward to it :D

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:35 am
by Shawn Herrington
Does anyone know if Lipo cut offs can be easily fitted to the Tamiya ESC's?

Richard has said they need to be wired into the switch, but does that mean it's as simple as cutting into the wire and attaching there?

Also the Tamiya rules do say that the ESC's can't be tampered with in any way, except for the shortening of wires. How do they cope with this issue or do they not allow Lipo's?

The other option is to just use nimah stick packs but after having two packs explode on me recently I would rather not go there again.

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:12 am
by James Brooker
Not wanting to ruin a new class before it starts by making the people that already race them elsewhereg buy bits they wouldn't usually need , maybe the easiest thing would be to remove that rule then there's no arguments. :?

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:21 am
by Shawn Herrington
It's going to be a catch 22 decision.
My take on it is have the rule in for the Touring Cars because they have the biggest drain on the batteries and remove it from the Mini's.

I'm not sure how long one of the M03's will go for before the minimum voltage is reached. I think I've seen 15 minutes mentioned somewhere?

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:53 am
by Brian Mills
I think as this is a "dip your toe in the water" weekend we ought to be as flexible as we can which will also make it as broadly appealing as possible.

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:46 pm
by Andy Crawford
Have got a Lipo cut out on its way now.

Regarding the 'not tampering with the ESC' rule, does that mean we are not allowed to change the nasty Tamiya plug for deans connectors or similar??? bit of a nuisance as my ESC already has Deans on it and I wanted to put them on my batteries (which arrived today - woop woop!)

Re: Extra Class for the Winter Series

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:12 pm
by Shawn Herrington
The only things you can do to the speedo are shorten the wires and change the plugs to something more suitable.
I saw you on the Tamiya forum Andy and was about to say ModelTech do a smaller (and cheaper) cut off. I have got one here somewhere, but can I find it? ... :roll:

I think it will need to be a thing of personal preference because as James has said we don't need to be having loads of varying rules. The Eastbourne lads won't want to be doing too much to their cars as many of them will be entering the Tamiya Cup when it visits next year.

Also I found an Australian RC forum earlier and they were discussing the same problem. The end result is they have been running 40+ cars with no cut offs for the last few months now with no issues.
http://www.rcracer.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69896&sid=73fe33a4f9afff7700b7d4dfbe7539e3